tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post6416277899750851113..comments2008-02-15T16:23:05.549-08:00Comments on Archive Honey's Bob Brinker Beehive Buzz Archive: Bob Brinker Blindsided by This CorrectionKirk Lindstromhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08907286927383718834noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-37534299653739791862008-01-26T10:34:00.000-08:002008-01-26T10:34:00.000-08:00Hi All:Your points are well taken about Bob. He ma...Hi All:<BR/><BR/>Your points are well taken about Bob. He made some good calls but also some bad ones. His model works sometimes but not all the time. <BR/><BR/>As an on-and-off follower of Bob's signals, I noticed that his model is more accurate when the market conditions are more mainstream. <BR/><BR/>As some other excellent Bob critics/analyzers have discussed extensively before, Bob seems shadowclonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17957228959987815724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-43480240659463219662008-01-24T06:39:00.000-08:002008-01-24T06:39:00.000-08:00BRINKER IS SOOOOO COCK SURE WHEN HE TALKS AND SOOO...BRINKER IS SOOOOO COCK SURE WHEN HE TALKS AND SOOO CONDESCENDING WHEN HE IS ASKED QUESTIONS. PERFECT EXAMPLE INVESTORS EXPRESSED RECENT CONCERN ON MARKET BRINKER TELLS THEM THEY ARE FOOLS THAT OF COURSE HE IS RIGHT AND MARKET WILL KEEP GOING UP BUT ALAS BRINKER IS WRONG S/P WAS DOWN ALMOST 19 % IN 4 VERY SHORT WEEKS AND BRINKER TOTALLY MISSED GETTING HIS INVESTORS OUT. ANOTHER BLOWN CALL BY BILLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17160627496796015607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-70362394188423819162008-01-19T14:44:00.000-08:002008-01-19T14:44:00.000-08:00Listening so far today (Saturday), Bob is totally ...Listening so far today (Saturday), Bob is totally skirting the issue regarding his recent bulletin and newsletter recommendation to buy (and not sell) at S&P 1450 or below. I was hoping he would guide his listeners as to where the market is heading (is he saving this info for subscriber's only...maybe he is planning another bulletin with this info?). HIs Moneytalk radio show seems to be more Whatnowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11970912563303434053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-38865106526753403562008-01-19T10:49:00.000-08:002008-01-19T10:49:00.000-08:00"Dow: -14.58SP : -15.33VTSMX:-15.90."Brinker tells..."Dow: -14.58<BR/>SP : -15.33<BR/>VTSMX:-15.90."<BR/><BR/>Brinker tells listeners not to invest in the long term bonds.<BR/><BR/>The 30 year is up 15% the same time the SPX is down 15%.<BR/><BR/>Ouch. 30% a swing.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992828143273341338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-67470038463537211632008-01-18T21:18:00.000-08:002008-01-18T21:18:00.000-08:00Current Maket Decline, as of: 1/18/2007:-------Dow...Current Maket Decline, as of: 1/18/2007:<BR/>-------<BR/>Dow: -14.58<BR/>SP : -15.33<BR/>VTSMX:-15.90.<BR/><BR/>Keep your eye on the VTSMX (Total Market Index)<BR/><BR/>It will be the first to go below -20%.<BR/><BR/>Then get ready for the "Spin of all Spins", if we enter a Bear Market!hairie13.1https://www.blogger.com/profile/16703854152865405831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-76637924312727021602008-01-18T12:24:00.000-08:002008-01-18T12:24:00.000-08:00Bob Brinker will always be ahead, he will just cha...Bob Brinker will always be ahead, he will just change the dates of his calls to show how much money he has made in the stock market.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232302045817683532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-74984407461692289442008-01-18T10:30:00.000-08:002008-01-18T10:30:00.000-08:00Tom and Hairie,Thanks for the VERY interesting com...Tom and Hairie,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the VERY interesting comments about the 20% drop.<BR/><BR/>One word comes to mind: <B>OUCH!!</B> 8^(Honeybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875564144642430272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-74662580904994360452008-01-18T10:26:00.000-08:002008-01-18T10:26:00.000-08:00Hi dundeenatal,I agree. Unfortunately, things do l...Hi dundeenatal,<BR/><BR/>I agree. Unfortunately, things do look rather grim right now, but let's hope the Fed will make some more cuts and that will be helpful.Honeybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875564144642430272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-72741789337509606092008-01-18T10:23:00.000-08:002008-01-18T10:23:00.000-08:00Hi Wonder,You said: "I wish someone would say, "Yo...Hi Wonder,<BR/><BR/>You said: <I>"I wish someone would say, "Your newsletter should not be called markettimer if you can't side step a 10% move.""</I><BR/><BR/>I agree...it really seems utterly ridiculous to trust someone who clearly says that he can't/won't get out of the market unless he "sees" a 20%+ drop coming. <BR/><BR/>The remainder of his schtick is just so much hocus-pocus, and he Honeybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875564144642430272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-25906472528454911292008-01-18T10:05:00.000-08:002008-01-18T10:05:00.000-08:00Hi Tom, I'm glad to hear that you benefitted from ...Hi Tom, <BR/><BR/>I'm glad to hear that you benefitted from Brinker's buy-signal in 2003. I'm always glad when people show that some of Brinker's calls are very good. <BR/><BR/>However, as you pointed out, anyone who has subscribed to Marketimer since 2003 has no way of being made aware of his blunders. <BR/><BR/>The last time he mentioned "those holding QQQQ-shares" was in the March, 2003 issueHoneybeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875564144642430272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-7112566541999565882008-01-18T04:53:00.000-08:002008-01-18T04:53:00.000-08:00Brinker seems to calculate all his gains from Marc...Brinker seems to calculate all his gains from March 2003. Completely ignoring he reissued "all in" buy calls at higher levels.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992828143273341338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-73518588282885181572008-01-17T20:51:00.000-08:002008-01-17T20:51:00.000-08:00Tom..Excellent point.So at the current S&P decline...Tom..<BR/><BR/>Excellent point.<BR/><BR/>So at the current S&P decline of (-14.81), Brinker would already have given up about 32% of his gains.<BR/><BR/>A decline of -25% in the S & P would be about equal to giving up about 52 % of his gains!hairie13https://www.blogger.com/profile/07672042639968455608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-72646541512057708382008-01-17T13:43:00.000-08:002008-01-17T13:43:00.000-08:00Honeybee, You raise an important issue I haven't s...Honeybee, <BR/>You raise an important issue I haven't seen discussed elsewhere, the infamous "20%!" And here's the key aspect of it that I don't agree with: if the S&P were to rally from 800 to 1600, say, it would have gained 800 points from bottom to top. What I think is relevant, then, would be a drop of 20% in all of the gains from bottom to top, NOT a drop of 20% in the absolute value of Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04080405668915427280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-15499905617688980452008-01-17T13:11:00.000-08:002008-01-17T13:11:00.000-08:00If Brinker is on this weekend I wonder how is goin...If Brinker is on this weekend I wonder how is going to blame. Let me guess: Hillary. Because Brinker is never wrong.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992828143273341338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-19821359011957794832008-01-17T12:35:00.001-08:002008-01-17T12:35:00.001-08:00It's a guessing game no matter who it is. I think...It's a guessing game no matter who it is. I think this is bear, bear, bear time. Why? Tell me one thing on the horizon that looks good?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11755758498718890082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-59470717408921179332008-01-17T12:35:00.000-08:002008-01-17T12:35:00.000-08:00Brinker was screaming bullish two weeks ago. A co...Brinker was screaming bullish two weeks ago. A couple people called and ask about selling. Brinker smacked them down. "If you can't take a 10% drop then you should not be in the stock market". I wish someone would say, "Your newsletter should not be called markettimer if you can't side step a 10% move." <BR/><BR/>The gains for 2007 are gone. 2006 is not far behind.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992828143273341338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8139098689654887986.post-64858673369565646462008-01-17T11:43:00.000-08:002008-01-17T11:43:00.000-08:00Thanks for the review of the facts, Honeybee. I s...Thanks for the review of the facts, Honeybee. I started a subscription to Brinker's newsletter in '03, and was fortunate to have bought in the market when he gave the signal. I didn't know his past blunders then, & now recognize he isn't the sage he claims to be. Think I'll save $185. this year! Keep up the good work.Tom Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975879260450365378noreply@blogger.com